Wyden: Where’s the limit on LNG exports?

As more and more LNG import terminals apply for permits to export natural gas from the U.S., U.S Sen. Ron Wyden asked whether the U.S. Department of Energy will put a cap on exports to protect Americans from rising gas prices.

At a Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee hearing today, U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) piped up on some of the biggest concerns Oregonians have about exporting liquefied natural gas from Coos Bay.

He outlined why people are worried LNG exports will drive up the price of natural gas for Americans – with a visual aid to boot. And he asked a federal energy official pointedly whether the agency would limit new liquefied natural gas export terminals to protect the American public from rising gas prices.

He didn’t quite get the answer he was seeking.

At a Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee hearing today, U.S. Sen. Ron Wyden brought a graph showing the three-fold difference in price between natural gas in Asia and the U.S. He's worried exporting liquefied natural gas from terminals such as the one proposed in Coos Bay will drive up the price of gas for American consumers and businesses.

As you may have heard, the U.S. natural gas supply is suddenly booming because of new techniques for extracting gas from shale rock. Companies including Jordan Cove in Coos Bay are quickly changing their plans from importing liquefied natural gas to exporting natural gas.

There isn’t much keeping natural gas companies from turning proposed LNG import terminals into export terminals. Increasingly, it’s looking like a key deciding factor in how much gas will be exported is the Energy Department’s analysis of what is – or isn’t – in the public interest.

Wyden brought a graph illustrating how natural gas prices in Asia are three times higher than they are in the U.S.

“So it’s very understandable why North American natural gas producers would want to build LNG export terminals so they can sell  natural gas to Asia  at three or four time the price here,” he said. “What’s less clear is how this is going to be beneficial for our consumers and our businesses that are going to have to compete with these prices.”

Earlier this year, the U.S. Department of Energy approved an export permit for the Sabine Pass LNG project in Louisiana and conceded the project would raise gas prices in the U.S. by more than 10 percent in 2015.

Since then, Wyden said, the U.S. and Canadian governments have approved more export facilities that will be able to export a total volume that’s five times the amount planned for Sabine Pass.

“Clearly, the department believes that raising natural gas pries by 10 percent meets the public interest test required by the Natural Gas Act,” Wyden said to Assistant Energy Secretary Chris Smith. “My question is, does the department believe that raising gas prices by five times that amount would be in the public interest?”

Smith was explaining to Wyden that his agency will be using “a more refined model” in the future for looking at the price impact of exporting natural gas. Wyden interrupted:

“My time is short,” he said. “I’m trying to get my arms around where the department is going to draw the line. Given the fact that prices overseas are many times higher than North American prices, my question really deals with how high do you think the price of the natural gas in the United States can go up as a result of these exports and still meet the public interest test?

Is there anything else you can tell me about how the department is going to draw the line so we can tell American businesses and consumers that they’re going to be able to get affordable natural gas as a result of this new export policy?”

Smith told Wyden the agency will be looking at many different factors tied to the price impacts of exporting LNG, but ultimately he said there’s no need to worry about export terminals turning natural gas into a global commodity like oil.

“We’re going to be looking at impact on GDP. We’re going to be looking at jobs. We’re going to be looking at impact on a balance of trade. Some of those factors will be affected by the price itself. So we understand the importance that price holds,” he said.

“We also understand that natural gas at these export levels remains an inherently local domestic commodity. Prices are higher in Asia, but if you compare natural gas with oil, oil is a globally fungible commodity where you have enough transportation infrastructure to move oil from market to market. Whereas the ability to couple prices in the United States with prices in Asia, there simply isn’t the infrastructure that would allow you to do that at this point in time.”

Wyden closed his portion of the hearing by restating his concerns: “Exports in the United States are going to make natural gas like the oil market. That’s why I’m concerned about what these price hikes could mean for our businesses and our consumers.”

  • Claudia

    Wyden wouldn’t touch this issue if there was an active pro-fracking Oregon lobby.  He seems willing to stand up to represent the environmental interests of his constituents only when doing so doesn’t run counter to the express objectives of his big-monied corporate donors.  

    • Jimgeddes

      At least on this one issue he seems to be on the peoples side not corporations. I do think a bit of consistancy towards the peoples side would be in order though.

  • Claudia

    Wyden wouldn’t touch this issue if there was an active pro-fracking Oregon lobby.  He seems willing to stand up to represent the environmental interests of his constituents only when doing so doesn’t run counter to the express objectives of his big-monied corporate donors.  

  • Claudia

    Wyden wouldn’t touch this issue if there was an active pro-fracking Oregon lobby.  He seems willing to stand up to represent the environmental interests of his constituents only when doing so doesn’t run counter to the express objectives of his big-monied corporate donors.  

    • Jimgeddes

      At least on this one issue he seems to be on the peoples side not corporations. I do think a bit of consistancy towards the peoples side would be in order though.

  • Claudia

    Wyden wouldn’t touch this issue if there was an active pro-fracking Oregon lobby.  He seems willing to stand up to represent the environmental interests of his constituents only when doing so doesn’t run counter to the express objectives of his big-monied corporate donors.  

  • guest

    Wyden is right on with his questions.  It’s not just about gas prices, either.  There are thousands of Oregonians who face having their farms, forests, and other private property condemned to ship gas to…China? Really?  This is a ridiculous scheme, and one that was sold originally for LNG imports.  Every single Oregonian should be fuming about being used by the energy industry (again) this way.  The Senate needs to put the brakes on this craziness.  Energy independence?  How do we get there if we ship our gas to Asia?

  • guest

    Wyden is right on with his questions.  It’s not just about gas prices, either.  There are thousands of Oregonians who face having their farms, forests, and other private property condemned to ship gas to…China? Really?  This is a ridiculous scheme, and one that was sold originally for LNG imports.  Every single Oregonian should be fuming about being used by the energy industry (again) this way.  The Senate needs to put the brakes on this craziness.  Energy independence?  How do we get there if we ship our gas to Asia?

  • guest

    Wyden is right on with his questions.  It’s not just about gas prices, either.  There are thousands of Oregonians who face having their farms, forests, and other private property condemned to ship gas to…China? Really?  This is a ridiculous scheme, and one that was sold originally for LNG imports.  Every single Oregonian should be fuming about being used by the energy industry (again) this way.  The Senate needs to put the brakes on this craziness.  Energy independence?  How do we get there if we ship our gas to Asia?

  • guest

    Wyden is right on with his questions.  It’s not just about gas prices, either.  There are thousands of Oregonians who face having their farms, forests, and other private property condemned to ship gas to…China? Really?  This is a ridiculous scheme, and one that was sold originally for LNG imports.  Every single Oregonian should be fuming about being used by the energy industry (again) this way.  The Senate needs to put the brakes on this craziness.  Energy independence?  How do we get there if we ship our gas to Asia?

  • Lon Tittle

    Smith states that “…there simply isn’t the infrastructure that would allow you to do that at this point in time” when speaking of the transportation of LNG. My concern is that that infrastructure (the building of LNG transport vessels) could easily increase to the point that LNG exports WILL indeed raise the prices of our OWN domestic natural resource extracted right here in the U.S. Its no big deal to build these ships and BANG…we Americans are paying way too much for what is under our very own feet!
    DID you know that the ANWAR oil now under ground is so high in sulfur that it would be cost-prohibitive to refine for the American market? Guess where that muck is being sent? You guessed it…China !! NOT good for anyone’s air on this planet to have China’s nasty industrial fashion burning sulfur-rich ANWAR crude all the while ANWAR and that environment and habitats also suffer human disturbance. This LNG issue is ran by the same evil force that runs ANWAR….greed and short-sightedness.

  • Lon Tittle

    Smith states that “…there simply isn’t the infrastructure that would allow you to do that at this point in time” when speaking of the transportation of LNG. My concern is that that infrastructure (the building of LNG transport vessels) could easily increase to the point that LNG exports WILL indeed raise the prices of our OWN domestic natural resource extracted right here in the U.S. Its no big deal to build these ships and BANG…we Americans are paying way too much for what is under our very own feet!
    DID you know that the ANWAR oil now under ground is so high in sulfur that it would be cost-prohibitive to refine for the American market? Guess where that muck is being sent? You guessed it…China !! NOT good for anyone’s air on this planet to have China’s nasty industrial fashion burning sulfur-rich ANWAR crude all the while ANWAR and that environment and habitats also suffer human disturbance. This LNG issue is ran by the same evil force that runs ANWAR….greed and short-sightedness.

  • Lon Tittle

    Smith states that “…there simply isn’t the infrastructure that would allow you to do that at this point in time” when speaking of the transportation of LNG. My concern is that that infrastructure (the building of LNG transport vessels) could easily increase to the point that LNG exports WILL indeed raise the prices of our OWN domestic natural resource extracted right here in the U.S. Its no big deal to build these ships and BANG…we Americans are paying way too much for what is under our very own feet!
    DID you know that the ANWAR oil now under ground is so high in sulfur that it would be cost-prohibitive to refine for the American market? Guess where that muck is being sent? You guessed it…China !! NOT good for anyone’s air on this planet to have China’s nasty industrial fashion burning sulfur-rich ANWAR crude all the while ANWAR and that environment and habitats also suffer human disturbance. This LNG issue is ran by the same evil force that runs ANWAR….greed and short-sightedness.

  • Lon Tittle

    Smith states that “…there simply isn’t the infrastructure that would allow you to do that at this point in time” when speaking of the transportation of LNG. My concern is that that infrastructure (the building of LNG transport vessels) could easily increase to the point that LNG exports WILL indeed raise the prices of our OWN domestic natural resource extracted right here in the U.S. Its no big deal to build these ships and BANG…we Americans are paying way too much for what is under our very own feet!
    DID you know that the ANWAR oil now under ground is so high in sulfur that it would be cost-prohibitive to refine for the American market? Guess where that muck is being sent? You guessed it…China !! NOT good for anyone’s air on this planet to have China’s nasty industrial fashion burning sulfur-rich ANWAR crude all the while ANWAR and that environment and habitats also suffer human disturbance. This LNG issue is ran by the same evil force that runs ANWAR….greed and short-sightedness.

  • Jimgeddes

    Thank you Wyden!!!

  • Jimgeddes

    Thank you Wyden!!!

  • Jimgeddes

    Thank you Wyden!!!

  • Jimgeddes

    Thank you Wyden!!!